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Confusion, pain and sorrow.
Posted On 11/16/2008 03:05:42 by Carrot

I need your help trying to understand what this is.


I have now been whining about my wifes and mine separation several times, how i know we need to detach and how difficult it is. My wife has just come to some conclusions herself.


She claims that one of her addictions are relationships, they give her a high, but ours don't do that for her anymore, that's why she has souhgt that in others.


She doesn't want a relationship with anyone, including me, at the moment, she says she needs to ”detox” from relationships.


She still sees us as married and recognises our marriage before God, she says the right thing for her to do is to stay faithful to me, still bound by her promises before God.


Sh says that the right thing for her to do is that if we can't have a healthy realtionship she doesn't want any other relationship, since she is bound to me by her promises before God.

Her goal is to live in a healthy relationship with me. Her alternative is no relationship at all.


She will still tell me what boundaries she sets up to other men, and what boundaries she fails to set, just as she has promised me earlier.


We will write a first, second and third step prayer for ourself to start our day with, praying together via the phone if we're not at the same place and we will still end our day with the serenity prayer togheter. She still doesn't want to pray it ”togeter” as in using the word ”us”, but want to use the word ”me” instead.


She wants to continue mairriage councelling for my sake, so that i can get to deal with her cheating on me, but she doesn't want to discuss that matter outside councelling. She has agreed to answer all the questions i have. Once, and then never again. I feel that she is trying to control how i deal with her infidelity and in that i cannot meet her.


Praying togheter without using ”us” is really wrong to me, but praying togehter is still more important than that small word.


Apart form that i totally agree with her. I too have been unhealthily addicted to her and given up my life for her.

This i have wanted to put an end to and now we can do it together.

I love her and that's why we need to separate, so that i can give her healthy love instead of addictive love.


I too, just as she, have the goal of living in a healthy relationship with her and don't want anyone else.


So folks... What do you think? Good or bad desicions? Doomed or not? I feel really confused, but it feels good. I am still anxious and feel bad about the separation, but i also feel God at work in this.


As i have said before i know that it is Gods will that we should be togheter, that we have work to do for God and i feel that this is the only way we can move towards Gods will.


My love for her is so big, i don't know how to handle the pain of letting her go. Well, i know i can't and i pray that God does it for me.





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From: byGrace
11/17/2008 09:26:53

One other thing (hope that I am not overstaying my welcome here). 

I too went to Codependent classes (CoDA) and while I can say that there was some truth in them for me and that they helped me to recognize my own addictive behaviors, that it is something that I have had to be careful of. I recall one man in my group who said that working the 12 steps had helped him get rid of his addiction and now he was using the 12 steps to get rid of the relationship with his wife and success in his business. It sounded full of ego to me at the time and it still does. So although there is some wisdom in the right kind of detachment, there is also rightness, I believe, in the right kind of commitment and love, because that is what most all of us yearn for in the deepest recesses of our heart (most psychologists agree that one of our deepest fears is a fear of abandonment). Only God can ultimately provide that. But when we can mirror something of that love to others then there can be a beauty that goes beyond any teachings of CoDA, IMHO. It is a tricky thing, but I pray that you will find Godly wisdom in these matters, for that is what ultimately matters, IMHO. 



From: byGrace
11/17/2008 09:15:01

Wanted to share from my thoughts and a bit of experience. My wife and I experienced some craziness in our relationship, especially in our early years, and it felt like I was in the Twilight Zone at times. Things didn't make sense and reactions seem all skewed. It was difficult, but by the grace of God I did the best to follow my God and put my trust in the One who does not fail. In the end, like others have commented, I had to give it up to God and say "Thy will be done", while at the same time doing everything that I could to take care of my side of equation. Looking back on it now, I didn't do that so well, as the frustration just led me into the quick fix of my addictive behavior of pornography. I have had to work for quite a few years to get rid of that and now that by the grace of God there is more and more victory then I am seeing God bless our marriage more and more, though there still are struggles. One of the things that I have had to learn is that there will always be challenges, even after I get rid of something that I paint to be my BIG PROBLEM at the time. So for me it is a matter of growth in the disciplines of God and letting Him bless as is appropriate. It always seems to be that God's solution is much more beautiful than mine ever could be. But the waiting for that to work out (and in the meantime working on getting my ship put in order) has been the difficult part for me. It seems to take so long. But then it is on God's timetable, not mine. 

One other thing, since we share the same Higher Power (according to your profile). I could not help but think of the passage from 1 Cor. 7 when I read your blog. There is ample room from the scriptures for taking time apart from a spouse and devoting yourselves to prayer. It can seem unsatisfying, but God can take our pain and frustration and turn it into growth if we submit it. As I write this, I know that I am talking to myself as well in that I still have trouble submitting my frustrations to God in faith. But at least now I know that there is really no other way that it will work for me in the long run. 

My heart is with you and I hope the best for you and your wife and kids. 

Peace. 



From: sprite
11/17/2008 07:24:31

Some great comments from others below and I'm not sure what more to add. I just want to say thank you for sharing and I wish you well in your journey.  Change is inevitable in life, without change we would never grow.... in saying that I know how scary it can seem. Take it one day at a time..



From: DisgruntledGurl
11/17/2008 04:13:14

I'm with Mish... Psworn and Dennis had some excellent things to say. However, it's not up to us to assume or analyze what the outcome of your marriage is going to be. You have to work on your recovery - for you! Just as she has to work on her's for herself. Not for each other and not for your marriage. Surely your marriage will grow stronger for it when you both learn to let go...of the control.

A friend of mine once told me that 3 things happen in relationships and only 3:

  1. People get healthy together
  2. People get sick together or unhealthy
  3. People split apart

(Einstein also defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.)

Put your marriage in God's hands, and focus on your own recoveries.

Thy will - not mine - be done!



From: KeithB
11/16/2008 15:22:23

Healthy people (mentally) have healthy relationships. It is up to each individual to work on their own health. Seems that Step 2 refers to sanity. Think there is a connection?

luv



From: DennisS
11/16/2008 08:45:26

     I wouldn't call it whining. Trying to sort out a troubled relationship isn't easy. This is a place designed wnere you can toss things out on the table and ask for help or support.
     I guess the biggest question in what you wrote is regarding God's will.
     Hindsight for me shows quite clearly that many times His will for me was to do one thing, but I did another. Repeatedly.
     I now try to view persons, events and situations placed in front of me with a different mindset, more in light of His will for me. Less questioning and with a more positive slant on my role in a given situation. 
     Acceptance of His will in my life means that I admit that I have no control over the final outcome in any given situation.
     The Serenity Prayer says it all: I can change me and do the footwork. I also must accept the fact that the other or others involved may or may not submit to his will. Or His will for them may not be the same as His will for me.
     I see no right answer to your question. To give one's opinion on destiny is to risk playing the fool or worse. One can but fall back on the last line of the first verse - "And wisdom to know the difference"...
Take care,
Dennis
   





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