hi just was goin thru members to see where people were from and i seen you was from cleve i was born and raised in cleve im 20 mins east now  it was nice to see another person from my area have a good day

Hey...I thought we lost you. I'm so happy your last log in date was in November. You must just be busy with meetings. I want you to know you are cared about very much. We miss you here too!

"We as men should not fear our mates; we should listen to their counsel."

The Elders say the men should look at women in a sacred way.

The men should never put women down or shame them in any way.

When we have problems, we should seek their counsel.

We should share with them openly. A woman has intuitive thought.

She has access to another system of knowledge that few men develop.

 She can help us understand. We must treat her in a good way.

Great Spirit, let me look upon the woman in a good way.

--Oren R. Lyons, Spokesman, Traditional Circle of Elders

When you meet a sober alcoholic

 

You meet a hero. 

His mortal enemy slumbers within him; 

He can never outrun his disability. 

He makes his way through a world of alcohol abuse, 

In an environment that does not understand him. 

Society, puffed up with shameful ignorance, 

Looks on him with contempt, 

As if he were a second-class citizen 

Because he dares to swim against the stream of alcohol. 

But you must know: 

No better people are made than this.



Friedrich von Bodelschwingh (1831-1910)

The most brilliant beggar in Germany